This site is in support of Wales Independence, Wales economy, environment and the welfare of its people,will be maximised by Wales making its own policies and utilising its considerable resources. The posts challenge the myths and negatives surrounding Independence. You have come this far, so why not read the posts, comment, engage and share. Croeso, Welcome
Friday, October 24, 2025
Independent Wales. Currency, debt and Wales Central Bank.( and the other stuff ).
Thursday, August 28, 2025
Public services as an economic generator.
The general mantra is the cost of the public sector, the NHS, local services.
How they take an increasing amount of taxpayers money to run.
The very same taxpayers that use the services.
The reality is very different. If we want to improve Wales' economy we should be spending more on the public sector.
We invest in an NHS not just to cure sick people, but to prevent sickness,
We invest in social care in order to improve the quality of life.
We invest in education to improve the life chances of children.
We invest in local services for the improved welfare of the people.
All worthwhile in themselves, but there is a wider economic gain.
Public Service Multipliers.
All Welsh Public Services are economic multipliers, which means that for each £1 invested in these services, the country gains more than £1.
The Welsh NHS is one of the economy’s highest multipliers
The KIngs Trusts think tank, estimates an NHS multiplier of 3.6.
For every pound spent on the NHS the economy gets £3.6 in return.
There’s the obvious,
A fitter, healthier working population is more productive.
Productivity means higher wages and profits, leading to higher tax revenues.
Much of the investment in public services are wages.
Of this 33% are immediately clawed back in income tax and NI.
The 67% remaining is then largely spent back into the economy creating a further multiplier of local taxes [ council tax ] VAT and tax revenues from the recipients of the spending.
Education has a lower multiplier of approximately 2.4
The principle remains the same, as education staff, teachers, assistants, dinner staff and cleaners are all involved in the tax and spend multiplier.
In addition, as shown by the Scandinavian countries in particular, an educated population is more productive, skilled and engages more readily with work.
Local services too have a contribution.
Leisure centres for health, community centres for mental health and wellbeing and libraries, all helping improve the population welfare and reducing costs of medical interventions.
Waste collections and road repairs help business work more effectively and the likes of local authority housebuilding contribute economically through employment and procurement.
The wages from this, indeed the wages of all local authority employees contribute to Wales public sector multiplier.
Public Sector Spending.
The Welsh public sector spends £10 billion per year on procurement, the purchase of goods and services.
That's £10 billion that should be mainly spent into the local Welsh economy.
A significant boost.
The problem is that the present Welsh government, when laying out the rules and conditions for public sector procurement, missed out the part about buying locally.
This distinct lack of an overall economic vision will be corrected in an Independent Wales.
The NHS spent £10 million per year on Personal Protection Equipment [ PPE ] prior to Covid, that is in a normal year.
There is an opportunity to encourage, assist a Welsh company to set up the production of this equipment.
It would ensure the security of supply and quality and provide a platform for exports to UKr and beyond.
The security of such a contract would enable investment in technology and skills training for the workforce.
A Welsh company, wealth and job creating, equipped and able to provide Wales needs in the event of future pandemics.
Welsh public services, far from being a burden on the taxpayer, or a cost to the economy, in addition to the necessary services provided, is a significant economic generator.
A contributor to Wales wealth creation
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Friday, August 1, 2025
How an Independent Wales will do it better 4
Tourism and hospitality.
Wales attracts fewer international tourists, than any UK nation or region bar the North East of England.
It raises less from tourist spending than any other part of the UK and Ireland.
The Welsh government lauds the tourist sector as important and a major contributor to the Welsh economy adding, it says, £3.8 billion to Wales GVA.
It is argued that Wales needs tourism and tourist spending.
Is this the case and is tourism good for Wales?.
Sunday, July 6, 2025
How an Independent Wales will do it better 3.
Agriculture
The land mass of Wales is almost 90% farmland , so it should be making a major contribution to the nation's economy and needs.
The fact that agriculture in Wales is increasingly spoken about in terms of its cultural or environmental contribution is an indication of its failure to do so.
The dialogue around farming is more often couched in terms of sustaining the Welsh language and looking after the environment, than economic benefits.
The Welsh government points to the data showing that 43% of farm workers speak Welsh against the national average of 22%.
That’s a total of 21500 out of a national total of almost 700000. So hardly a policy deciding reason..
So it must be filling a need. Providing the domestic consumers with the produce they need.
This too is questionable.
Monday, May 26, 2025
How an Independent Wales will do it better 2.
The experience of Technology in Wales.
In How Wales will do it better, it was shown that the Welsh economy, upon which much depends, is lacking in a middle business sector of medium sized enterprise
A high value middle business sector..
Wales also lacked, together with the UK as a whole, the ability to upscale enterprises.
So how will an Independent Wales improve its economic imbalance?
How will an Independent Wales do it better?
High value sustainable enterprise.
The industries of the future.
The industries with high paid skilled jobs.
The industries that will be the core of the Welsh economy.
Having looked at Space science. What’s next?
Life Sciences.
Life Sciences,
Wales is lauded by the Welsh government and its agencies as leading the UK in the life science sector.
Not to put too much of a dampener, the facts don't support that assertion.
On a per capita basis.
The number of companies in Wales does meet the UK average.
The number of employees is below the UK average at 4.2% rather than the 4.6% population share.
The financial turnover of Welsh based life science companies is 2.3% of the UK average, rather than a 4.6% population share.
So not outperforming the UK average.
The Welsh government asserts that there are 280 companies in Wales in the life science sector, employing 12500.
A significant number are very small companies attempting to break into their particular market.
Of the established life science companies based in Wales, almost all are foreign owned, largely by American health tech or investment companies.
Almost all are attracted by Welsh government financial inducements.
There are a number of life science hubs across Wales, mostly centred around Welsh Universities, each successful in innovation, research and development.
That is the attraction for the deep pockets of American companies.
The ownership of these small companies means the ownership of the intellectual property they have developed.
As in the UK, Wales has encouraged, at a cost, Foreign Direct Investment.
This in reality has merely meant the purchase of an already successful company or they are taking over the future of Wales life science technology.
The Welsh government argues that it is ‘ pumping ‘, always emotive descriptions, into the Welsh economy.
What it really means is that present and future profits, together with policy decisions are taken outside Wales.
We are being unfair. The Wales government funded a £100 million Life Science Fund, to aid the development of life sciences in Wales.
It was administered by the Wales Development Bank, who themselves appointed a management company.
So a bit less than £100 million by the time their fees were taken.
The Life Science Fund invested in nine companies.
All but one failed.
All had ownership outside Wales.
The Wales Life Science Fund is now closed.
Tuesday, April 29, 2025
How an Independent Wales will do it better.
Wales is a nation of unique culture, music and language.
Culture, music and language that is presently struggling for lack of financial support.
It is a nation that is concerned about its environment.
Not only its natural environment, but reductions in waste, as shown by its high recycling rates, carbon emission reduction, but also the urban environment.
It often punches above its weight in sport [ best not to mention the rugby ] with champions in cycling, boxing, athletics and more.
Here too it struggles for financial support, especially at grassroots level, whether for enjoyment or fitness.
In almost every area, Wales can be seen to be distinct from the other nations of the UK and elsewhere.
However, this distinctiveness is under threat, with almost every part underfunded.
Even those run by voluntary organisations, have expenses, ever growing expenses.
And the basics.
Public Services, Public Welfare. All need financial support.
So when we talk of Wales doing better, or more commonly worse, we invariably mean the economy.
Improvements in Wales, a better Wales inevitably relies on the economy..
So back to the question.
How will an Independent Wales do it better?
Friday, April 11, 2025
Welsh Independence. Currency revisited.
Given that it’s central to Wales Independence, the topic of what currency a Welsh sovereign state should have deserves a revisit. Have another look.
It can be divisive. Although it is self-evident that a nation cannot be fully Independent using the currency of another nation, there are those, even strong advocates of Welsh Independence, who have doubts, opposing views.
As part of the push to Wales Independence it’s becoming make your mind up with regard to a currency for an Independent Wales.
Stay with the pound.
Stay with the pound for a while.
Wales has its own sovereign currency.
Thursday, January 16, 2025
Radical Federalism. An Absolutely Independent Response!
Welsh Labour is lost and fearful.
It has no vision to offer for the future of Wales and is fearful of the slow but steady rise of Welsh Independence.
As they have no alternative to offer, they take the predictable course, they attack it.
The line of one Welsh Labour MS, is that Independence will inevitably
lead to higher taxes, this without producing a shred of evidence in support.
Another called on Independence supporters to " put aside their little dreams". That however, from a peer, or is it peeress, of the realm, whose allegiance to Wales is secondary to her sworn allegiance to the Union. So that is an expected, although disappointing retort.
As there is little basis to these attacks the usual fallback, except for Wales is too small and too poor, is that Independence is iIl considered and Ill defined.
As for the first charge, that is easily rebutted and with the second, perhaps a little help is needed.
Independence is Wales as a sovereign state. Free and able, to make its own economic, political and legislative decisions for the benefit of the Welsh people. Free to fully utilise its resources and skills. Free to make alliances, treaties and agreements with who it wishes. It may wish to make them with other nations of the UK, to the mutual benefit and as equal and voluntary arrangements. However such an arrangement is not a condition of Wales Independence.
If the benefits of the Union are so great, there should be no problems, persuading the Independent nations of the UK, to get together for mutual benefit agreements.
With regard to nationalism. To most it would mean the right to maintain and defend Wales own national identity. Its culture, arts and language.
Separatism, rather than the pejorative term, is to separate Wales from the dominance of others, a dominance that Wales has been subject of, through its history.
Neither, is isolationist nor protectionist Indeed there is every incentive and intention, for Wales to welcome interaction with others, well beyond its own borders.
It was exciting to learn that Welsh Labour Assembly members, well one anyway, were presenting a paper on reform of the political system relating to Wales.
After 20 years, they were at last waking.
I read it. I read it with increasing disappointment. It wasn't a conversion to Independence after all, but something called Radical Federalism. A defence of the Union.
Nevertheless, it was something for Welsh Labour to get excited about, so I thought. Come on. Open mind. Give it a chance.
We the People. The case for Radical Federalism.
The title wasn't a good start.
We the People. A bit presumptuous and arrogant, but I put that down to Welsh Labour's way.
And. The Case for Radical Federalism. Well I read carefully through the document, but nowhere could find a case for federalism.
The document went some way to making a case for radical reform of the "Union ". But federalism?
Now I think the old Baptist streak in Wales, would find a lot to like in the
document. Peace, harmony and goodwill, between all the people. Economic and political decisions of magnitude, being decided in village halls up and down the land and everything levelled up. What's not to like?
My first thought was, how are they going to go about it.
Good old Welsh Labour didn't disappoint there. They reverted to kind.
It doesn't matter about any detail or structure at this stage. Let's just agree on the principle.
I haven't noticed the Independent movement getting away with that.
I do have say though, that the wish list is pretty impressive. There is something in there for everyone. Workers rights, equality, the environment, climate change. Pretty much on a par with an all party election manifesto
Struggling through, I did get the impression that the ambition was more about the Union than about Wales, with a real concern about the fate of the English regions. This is not surprising as Radical Federalism is a rallying call of the UK Labour Leader who is losing his party.
It does mention the UK nations as Sovereign states. They would be responsible for the welfare and economies of their own people. These sovereign states would be able to set their own levels and standards above a minimum agreed by the federal arrangement.
And there it started to go downhill. For after allowing these freedoms, there doesn't appear to be any mechanism to pay for these enhanced standards. Under radical federalism, it is proposed that the UK government retains the powers of trade, macroeconomic and fiscal policy.
Just like the present discredited system.
Probably the statement that best sums up the paucity of content, is that the Union is better able to attack and remedy some, as yet unidentified, structural failings and threats that would be beyond the reach and capabilities of the smaller, weaker governments.
Got to fit the fear factor in somewhere.
Although it is difficult to imagine what these structural failings and threats are, that the Independent nations of the UK could not themselves provide. If they had the freedom to do so.
But then, when you have no logical argument, fear is a useful standby.
However, back to the " vision" of this radical federalism.
In this federal system, it would appear that there would be agreement that English regions would have more powers and responsibilities, but not as much as the nations though, who would have sovereign status. Dream on.
This Radical Federalism document does offer templates for their process.
We could follow the Belfast Agreement 1998 ( That's the Good Friday Agreement to you and me ).
Now you would think that they would come up with a better model.
The Good Friday Agreement has three elements and how these are shown as best practice for federal cooperation I'm not quite sure.
First there is the N Ireland elected Assembly. This is the body elected by the people to run N Ireland, except that they seem to disagree over just about everything and indeed was suspended and didn't meet for three years.
Then there's the North / South council.
That is senior politicians from the North and South of the island of Ireland, who seek to make cross border vector agreements. Agriculture, Tourism, Transport etc. They meet on average, once a year and in the twenty years of existence, there are still cross border issues unresolved. Indeed in recent years the main topic of discussion, covid aside, has been the unification of Ireland.
The third element is the British / Irish Governmental Conference, between The Irish Republic and UK governments.
Their relationship has hardly been harmonious and one you would normally be reluctant to hold up as an example of harmonious cooperation.
And
The British / Irish Council.
Representatives of Ireland and the UK nations and islands, including the Isle of Man and Jersey and Guernsey.
The meetings are said to be a forum on promoting harmony across the people of the UK and discuss a range of cross border issues, from the environment to energy.
The reaching of agreement is not the priority. Continuing discussion and communication is. For it constitutes part of the systems designed to keep the cross border peace and harmony on the island of Ireland. It is not a model of democratic process.
Federalism will however require such processes, both costly and complex, to administer any Federalist system
These systems however are products of a federal government, not the pathway to federal establishment.
So despite the protocols and regulations of the Belfast Agreement, It has failed on so many fronts. And this between just two parties.
The federal system being advocated, will involve regions of England and the Nations of the UK, each with their own vested interests and demands.
I'm afraid the Belfast Agreement 1998 model will not accommodate that.
Then we are offered the Alliance for Full Employment, as the way to work together.
I looked for a mass movement, which had discovered the way to mutual organisation.
Or the combinations of trade unions who had found common agreement.
The Alliance for Full Employment, is neither of these. It is instead a small group of mainly Labour great and good who have embarked on a common purpose. It is fronted by the friend of the Union, Gordon Brown
There is no broad organisation that can guide the federal system. Nor indeed do they appear to have actually done anything and as they were formed less than six months ago, they hardly have a track record, to engender such faith.
So to the process. A Constitutional Convention.
Gordon Brown taking a central role. Yes Gordon Brown again. A late convert to this new sharing of democracy. He had thirteen years of government in which to bring in this " fundamental change ". It would appear that it is more anything anti-independence, than decentralization, for him.
Agreement is a distant aim, first things first, who will attend.
It will need to be a very anaemic agenda to get any interest from the Tories. They are not known for their generosity in sharing power.
The SNP are certainly not going to be interested in anything offered in this vision.
The DUP may be attracted, but their day has gone. Sein Fein is the power now.
Welsh Labour of course are attracted to this option. But they may well be too weakened to matter
UK Labour, upon which, so much of this depends. A lot of ifs, on which to
place Wales' future. If the UK Labour Party supports it, not just the Leader. If it remains a priority for Keir Starmer. If Labour retains power in the long term, you wish. And even if they do, politics being what it is, Federalism may no longer feature.
And there's the timescale. It's out of sight.
The agreement on the convention. Agreement on the agenda. Agreement on taking part. What shape will the English federal representation take, what model will be used and on and on.
A risky strategy to base Wales' future on, for like devolution, it's out of your control.
I didn't have great expectations and in that I wasn't disappointed. I would however, have liked the document to form a debate.
It is though, just a confused muddle of wishes, likes, ifs, maybes and fantasies. Thrown into the " intellectual " pot, with fingers crossed it will morph into something credible.
Is this the alternative to Independence? It's not even an alternative to the status quo it's meant to replace.
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